Not really meta, as such. Just an interesting series of observations I blundered through while considering the following:

Holmes/Watson vs John/Mary (Downey filmes)
Vimes/Vetinari vs Sam/Sybil (Discworld)

The names, I mean, not the pairings themselves.

I was just thinking about this in terms of my having written Sybil/Sam/Havelock and Sherlock/John/Mary. Just noticing the choice of names used for each pairing tag. I noticed it even at the time, when I was putting the threesomes in the headers for the fics and noticed the odd ... stickiness of the names? Just taking those two. The Discworld set, do you say Vimes/Vetinari/Sybil? Vimes/Vetinari/Ramkin? Sam/Sybil/Havelock? With the Holmes set, is it Holmes/Watson/Mary, or Holmes/Watson/Morstan, or Sherlock/John/Mary?

None of them really look right, laid out. And there are a couple of reasons for that, and also a couple of implications, and right now I'm sort of randomly finding this fascinating. Heh. So. Bear with me while I unpick it a little?

I've been trying for some time to figure out how to phrase this, how to rationalise it into something coherent, when most of what I'm trying to talk about are things which hit me in the id. In short, things that are difficult to talk about rationally. So ... this is an attempt, and no better?

I was just trying to pull out common traits from characters I loved. The traits characters have that ping me in the happy place. And, okay, I actually like a fairly wide variety of them, but there are some traits that sort of grab me by the heart and make me pay attention. I'm trying to narrow them down.

And I think the short list basically comes to the following: Honour. Cunning. Compassion. Resilience. Pragmatism. Courage.

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( Mar. 26th, 2013 09:55 pm)
Just thinking about fantasy lately, and fantasy on the big and little screens. You know how fantasy TV is back in, these days? And also historical dramas, and stuff like that? What with Game of Thrones and LOTR and The Hobbit and Rome and Vikings and The Borgias and all?

I want to see a TV series of The Queen's Thief series, by Megan Whalen Turner. So much.

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( Mar. 7th, 2013 11:40 pm)
Just a small musing on dwarf names.

Dwarf names tend to be clustered by sound, yes? There are four ending suffixes among the dwarves of the company: -in, -ur, -li and -ri. I'm just going to put the -ur ending aside for the moment, since it's from a different family, and focus on the other three, since they belong to the line of Durin.

Almost all the male dwarves of the royal line of Durin have names ending in the suffix -in. Thorin, Balin, Dwalin, Oin, Gloin. Also Frerin, Thrain, Fundin, Groin, Dain, Nain, Borin, Farin, all the way back to Durin. It seems to be the done thing that male dwarves of the line of Durin take the -in suffix.

There are two major exceptions. First, there's Thorin's grandfather and granduncles: Thror, Fror and Gror. And then, later, there are the children of the Company, all three of whom take the suffix -li instead: Fili, Kili, Gimli.

Now, I have no idea what's up with the sons of Dain I, but I wonder if the -li suffix for the children of the Company might not have something to do with the fact that they were all children born in exile? (I know the sons of Dain were also the generation that moved the line out of the Grey Mountains, also due to dragon attacks, but they were born before the move, so I don't think exile was the rationale, there).

It's slightly suggestive, too, that it's phonetically similar to the suffix -ri, which in filmverse canon at least, is used by a branch of the house of Durin with, ah, slightly seedy origins.

Does anyone know how dwarf outer names work? Do the suffixes actually mean anything? I'm curious, now. *grins faintly*
This has been noodling around my head for a while, and I just wanted to examine it a little bit. There are ... quite a lot of things you can learn by examining the weapons of choice in the movieverse Company. In fact, and all credit to the costuming team for the movies, I think the weapons used by the dwarves essentially give a portrait of class and clan divides in the Company, and also a degree of the history of the line of Durin post-Smaug. Ah. Allow me to demonstrate?

(WARNINGS: Firstly, I'm not by any means an expert on weapons. This is just going on what impressions I've cobbled together from some study of history and some knowledge of the background of the Company. Bear in mind, I only barely know the major classes of weapons apart, that's the level of knowledge you're dealing with here).

For [livejournal.com profile] ciaranbochna, who asked the following:

When you watch a film, or read a story, on how many levels are you processing it (meta, themes, future writing, characterization, etc)?

Which, oh, is complicated. Primarily because it varies on a case by case basis, depending on the day I'm having, the medium involved, how recently I'd been having discussion with people, how much sleep I've had recently ... *grins sheepishly* It varies, is my point. But ... okay, maybe we can get high and lows, and a mean from that?

Short ... random burble, really, for [livejournal.com profile] oneiriad, who asked the following:

You mentioned in your previous post, how enemy mine hits you right in the gut. Care to elaborate on that?

Enemy mine, for those that don't know, is the TV tropes name for situations in fiction where enemies are forced to work together for a common goal, usually survival, sometimes to defeat common enemies (it's also a fabulous science fiction book and film, look it up, I love it). And, um, this seriously gets me in the id-place, so possibly this will not be very coherent -_-;

Short Tony Stark meta for [livejournal.com profile] nihstel, who asked me the following question:

When Tony Stark looks at things, what does he see?

Okay. Firstly, I am not an authority on this. And second, I'm presuming you mean what he sees that makes him act the way he does, what he sees that makes him Tony Stark and not someone else. Because he sees the normal things, he does, a car is a car and a person is a person, he sees that part of them. Everyone does, to an extent. But what Tony sees that makes him different, that makes him Tony ...

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( Feb. 3rd, 2013 08:36 pm)
Story-wise, the muse isn't coming right now. Given current climate at home, I'm not particularly surprised, but it's somewhat frustrating :(

However, in lieu of fic, does anyone have any meta or thoughts they'd like to see from me? I've been hanging on the outskirts of some fandom discussions lately, so I'm in the mood, I think.

Anything relating to stories or fandom is fair game (though to warn you, I'm probably too insular to make community judgements, is the only thing). Anyone have something they want to see?
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( Feb. 1st, 2013 08:14 pm)
I've been watching cartoons the last couple of days (family trouble, long story), and I'm suddenly possessed of a sudden urge to see Agent Coulson (MCU) vs Agent Bishop (TMNT) in a fight. *grins faintly*

For reference, and possibly to explain the logic, here is Agent Coulson vs two convenience store robbers using a bag of flour and their shotguns (Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer), and here is Agent Bishop vs four turtles, a ninja princess and the Hun using primarily a tie, a briefcase, and whatever body happens to be closest (Hun on the Run, both on youtube).

Obviously these two besuited shady government agents should have a dust-up, no? At least, this is where my brain went. *shakes head, grins*
... Sci-fi noir, it does this to me, swear to Someone. And English class for compare/contrast, it's busted something in my brain. Oi.

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( Sep. 21st, 2012 05:54 pm)
What character combos do you wish you saw more of in fic? I don't mean pairings, I mean characters you just wish got more screen time together, preferably in actual interaction rather than looming together in the background of scenes. *smiles faintly* Actually, come to that, what character combos do you wish you saw more of in canon, too?

*shakes head* In Avengers, for example, I've been nursing a yen for Natasha & Tony, Rhodey & Tony, Rhodey & everyone ever, Nick Fury & everyone ever (though since Situational Analysis, I've really, really been wanting Nick & JARVIS), Natasha & Nick ... actually, I would just give a lot for more 'Nick Fury is a human being and interacts with people'. *shrugs, smiles*

I also now randomly wish to see Maria Hill and Tony Stark (possibly also Happy Hogan, Natasha Romanov and James Rhodes) designing and testing assault courses for various vehicles, but that's a random brain spurt, never mind. *grins sheepishly* For explanation, I rewatched the movie recently, and I honestly think I could watch a whole movie of Maria Hill engaging in car chases and shooting at people while mountains fall on her head ... Apparently I like the idea of Maria Hill and moving vehicles. *facepalm* Also, more Bruce and motorbikes, more Steve and motorbikes, possibly more Bruce + the spies on boosting/acquiring vehicles on short notice in weird places ... Right. I think my brain got hung up on the transport for some reason on the last rewatch -_-;

*smiles* I love fandoms with big, varied casts (Avengers and Dresden Files being the first two that spring to mind - I want to see Butters with everyone, Sanya with everyone, Murphy with everyone ...), because of the range of potential interactions across the cast. Just ... sometimes there are some combos that you wish you saw more of, yes?

So. Which are yours? *curious*
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( Sep. 5th, 2012 08:27 pm)
[Sorry, by the by, for leaving people hanging. The last couple of days have been ... Um. Yes. My apologies, and I'll try get back around soon? I needed to do this first:]

... I keep trying to write this, and it keeps not working. *shrugs* It doesn't coalesce the whole way, doesn't quite ... It's too intrinsic, and therefore too tangled. But. Alright. Lets try this, and limit the aim to being only minimally confusing.

On the subject of pragmatism, and rationality in the face of ... well, everything, but specifically emotional situations.

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( Aug. 21st, 2012 08:37 pm)
... This is a question I'm not exactly sure how to phrase. *rubs mouth musingly*

Is it ... Is it not usually the done thing, in fanfiction, to have fic that focuses on examining platonic relationships in depth? As in, focusing on the relationship, with the level of attention you would in a shipping fic, but the relationship itself is still decidedly gen?

I mean, I saw a response once on Deus Ex that said they'd never seen a platonic relationship examined so 'intimately'. Which is ... I mean, really? (Not sarcasm, by the way. Honest question).

And I know in Avengers fic, I'm very, very gen right now, but ... not usually in the sense of teamfic or action-adventure, but in the sense of examining the personal interactions of various characters. (Mostly, admittedly, relating to Tony -_-;) And it's ... mostly because they're all still so new to each other, except in those cases where there's so much implied history, and it's kind of awesome to be able to explore that wide and that varied a set of potential interactions, and ... Um. It's all still mostly gen, with me. But the depth, in some of those potential relationships ...

And I know, I know, I've asked variations on this question before (well, no, I've written a long and rambly post about why I like platonic shipping/emotional gen), but ...

But. Is it really that rare? Is it honestly just not usually the done thing?

*shakes head, waves hand* Never mind. I'm obsessing slightly, I know. Ignore me, carry on. *grins sheepishly*
... Okay. I'm just going to preface this with some information, so can you judge just how much I'm talking out of my arse. I have never been in a relationship (barring two weeks once when I was 18, which I found ... strange and bizarre, and mildly uncomfortable). I am fairly contently asexual, and have never noticably felt sexual attraction for ... well, anyone. I'm also an Aspie, and severely unsocial, to the point where most social situations (at least without a set purpose like a shared interest/activity) sort of baffle me.

I am also, for the record, in my mid-twenties, and perfectly content with all of the above, though it's taken me a lot of work to get to that point.

Now. I've been involved recently in a lot of conversations about relationships, and infidelity in particular (how, I'm not sure, why do people ask me these things, is it not obvious I'm sort of woefully unqualified to have an opinion?). Also, conversations about polyamory and open relationships, and just ... relationships involving multiple people, basically. People asking me what do I think of this, and how would I feel if that (usually devolving, once I've given my answer, to how the hell can you think that), and so on and so forth.

I do, in fact, have an opinion. Just the one, actually. Just from a general overview of all those conversations and scenarios and questions. The opinion follows thusly:

Why the fuck do people not TALK about these things, before getting into relationships (or at least in the early stages of one)?

Actually, why do people not talk in general? At least half the problems people posit in these conversations would have been, if not solved, at least revealed at a much earlier date, if it was socially acceptable to set boundaries before getting heavily involved in a relationship.

*muses* You know, since I'm writing a crap tonne of AI stories lately, it occurred to me that I maybe oughta make something clear. It probably explains my approach to the concept a little:

I absolutely hate the concept of Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics. They actually horrify me, on a base level.

That ... was possibly more vehement than it should be. *shrugs sheepishly* I can't help it. They reach inside me and STAND on several very big, very bad buttons for me. Um. Allow me to explain?

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( Jul. 31st, 2012 08:44 pm)
There's this one spot, when I'm walking towards town on a certain road. Where you come down off the hill at an angle, looking out over the river at the bulk of the town. At that point, purely because of a trick of the angle, a trick of perception, parts of the town appear to align/connect with other parts that they do not, in reality, actually connect with. The line of the ridge above the river valley seems to run about 30 degrees off from what it does in actuality, St Mary's Church seems to be directly connected by a road (to judge from the rooflines) up to the copper-roofed building at the top of the town (I've actually no idea what that building it, it's just very prominent on the hill, with the distinct green roof). In reality, there are actually two roads running crossways between them, and no direct links at all.

Which is random babbling on specifics, maybe. The point is. At this one point, coming into the town, every time I walk through, I get two distinct, specific images of the town. The one that appears just at this one spot, the diagonal-to-reality town, and the one in my memory, the actual town. Layered on top of each other, two maps overlaid on an image, creating a weird, half-way sensation.

There are other spots like that, in other towns. In the city where I went to college, there was this one spot, by the park, where you looked down the tree-lined road down into the city, and a trick of perception put the green domes of St Francis' (churches are wonderful landmarks, by the by) up against the bluffs on the other side of the river, which are in actuality around half a mile distant. In the evening, especially, it created the bizarre sensation that you were looking at a different, rather foreign city, something strangely mediterranean-looking. *smiles faintly*

They're just tricks of perception, those spots. Just angles, giving the illusion of something different lying superimposed over something familiar. Towns and cities layered across each other, one in memory, one in front of you, one in actuality, one in illusion. Just tricks, that's all they are.

But they give me ... a sensation, sometimes. Green-orange, heavy. I have to stand, sometimes, and just stare, just hold the feel of that other city/town in my head, hold the two images over each other, and feel the ... Potential? *nods* Feel the potential of them.

When I was younger, I used to hang upside-down over the garden wall, or off the top bar of the swing-set, and look out over the road. Seeing how oddly different it made it, grey-white and strange. Because the world doesn't look the same, upside-down, the directions don't seem to connect the way you think they should, and while you're hanging there, it looks like a different world. A strange and new place you haven't explored. A mirror-world, slightly off true.

It's the same with those places. Those odd junctures of angle and illusion that make familiar places look strange, those green-orange moments where it feels like the bridge onto another world, laid just an angle off this one. Where something so familiar to you that you don't even see it anymore is suddenly different, new, strange, exciting. Where you look, and look, and keep looking, because if you move, or look away, that other town, that other city, that other world, will disappear. Even if you know that all you have to do is stand in that place again, and you'll see it again. There are moments where it feels ... too strange and too fragile to let go of.

*smiles* If magic were real, if those other worlds were real worlds, then those places would be the places where you'd step over. The bridges, where you'd cross. And for some reason, because of that, the magic of translation/transportation is, in my head, a strange orange-green. *smiles faintly at self*

The world hides little tricks for you, little gems, tucked into random angles, little folds in itself. Tricks of perception. That's all. But 'all', I think, in this case, is ... still something special. Heh.

*shrugs* Forgive the slightly random digression, won't you? *smiles*
I'm just thinking. You know those moments, in your fictions, when characters just connect, for a moment or two? When someone reaches out, in one way or another, lets someone else see something for a second at a time? Where they just ... reach out.

I'm just thinking what were some of my favourite of those moments.

Like, in Captain America, when Bucky tells Steve who he's following, and it's not Captain America.

Like in Avengers, when Natasha and Clint just sit, shoulder to shoulder, while he gets himself back. Or when Thor grasps Steve's arm in Manhattan, as they get ready to keep fighting. Or basically everything about Tony and Bruce.

Like in Sherlock Holmes, in the Granada version of 'Six Napoleons', when Lestrade tells Holmes that they don't resent him, down the Yard, but are proud to work with him. Or 'Three Garridebs', when Watson gets shot, and Holmes lets rather more show than he would normally in panicked response. Or, in the Downey version, when Watson's in hospital, and Mary is the one to tell Holmes that John wouldn't regret the injury, so long as it helped him.

Like in Haven, when Audrey does those hundreds of tiny, casual things for Nathan that apparently no-one in his life beforehand thought to do.

Like in Criminal Minds, when Morgan tells Garcia that she's his 'god given solace'. When Hotch tells Emily to come to him when she's just ... having a bad day. When Rossi tells Hotch that he damn well is allowed to be happy.

Like in L.A. Confidential, that conversation that repeatedly breaks my heart, where Ed and Jack tell each other why they became cops.

Like in Sanctuary, in the midst of the pain and anger of Revelations, where John pointedly avoids telling James why he can't leave him to die.

Like in Star Trek, that wholly silent conversation at the end of Search for Spock, where McCoy just taps his head and smiles. Or that again silent conversation at the end of Amok Time, where Spock just grabs hold of Kirk and grins stupidly at him.

Like that entire episode in Starsky and Hutch where Hutch was forcibly strung out, and Starsky's just there for him the whole way.

... You know. Those moments. Those small, sometimes quiet, sometimes fraught, moments where characters reach out and connect to each other. Some of the best moments in fiction.

Do you guys have favourites, of those moments?
icarus_chained: lurid original bookcover for fantomas, cropped (Loki)
( Jun. 11th, 2012 09:51 pm)
Prompted by [livejournal.com profile] grav_ity wondering if movieverse Loki was a raging misogynist (re: Natasha and Jane in particular). Just some musings.

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( Jun. 10th, 2012 08:55 pm)
... I kind of want to know when I started casually using the terms 'Doylist' and 'Watsonian' in discussions. *bemused smile* Especially since I seem to have acquired most of my terminology on fiction/media/archetypes/etc from fan discussion, rather than any formal teaching. *grins*

I think, sometimes, that I can honestly say I've learned as much from reading, writing and researching fanfic as I have from college. Heh. Not even just in the sense of facts, but in the sense of modes of thought/ways of examining things/means of discussion. Putting yourself in someone else's shoes. Examining history/facts/theories/philosophies from other points of view. *shrugs* I'm just saying. Fanfiction and fan-dialogue, as a culture, has probably done a whole hell of a lot for both my knowledge base and my critical functions. *grins*
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